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  #1871  
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Donc pour 2500 ducats pour les 3 provinces
gné? Y a que deux provinces en trop. Et encore, si je voulais vraiment chipoter, je pourrais me contenter de deux provinces mais prendre autre chose pour arriver aux 76 pts. Donc 2500 çà me semble vachement beaucoup.
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Ma faute.
Trop crevé ces temps ci, je n'arrive plus à compter...

Pour éviter de pourrir situation et de faire des modifs de save
Comme convenu 1000 ducats par provinces, soit 2000 ducats et (presque) tout le monde est content...
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et (presque) tout le monde est content...

Surtout toi, car 2000 ducats pour deux provinces à cette époque du jeu et qui donc ne seront jamais rentabilisée, c'est pas mal. M'enfin, j'accepte, faut savoir faire des sacrifices.
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perso, j aurai préféré largement les garder...
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J'ai Internet !!!

Ouééé à moi les AAR fournis, les litiges réglés de manière souveraine et tranquille, les modifs de save faites à l'avance et non à l'arrache, la rédaction de l'hsitoire de la Molo .... Fini les posts argumentés depuis le boulot

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Ha ben Papa Noel est passé en avance je vois!

Content que ton cadeau te plaise, mon petit Marco!
Mais continue à bien travailler et à être sage surtout!
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Voila les events US que je vais demander à mon remplaçant de prendre 'surement Marseillais)

id = 3047
trigger = {
NOT = {
domestic = { type = innovative value = 10 }
}
NOT = { exists = USA }
}
random = no
country = ENG
name = "EVENTNAME3047"
desc = "EVENTHIST3047"
style = 4
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1765 }
offset = 350
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1766 }

action_a ={ #Stamptax and Tolls#
name = "ACTIONNAME3047A"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = 2 }
command = { type = trigger which = 4980 }
}
action_b ={ #Stamptax, Defensetax and Tolls#
name = "ACTIONNAME3047B"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = 5 }
command = { type = vp value = 50 }
command = { type = treasury value = 500 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = trigger which = 4980 }
}
action_c ={ #More Taxes in England#
name = "ACTIONNAME3047C"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 231 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 232 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 233 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 234 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 235 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 236 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 237 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 238 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 239 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 240 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 241 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 242 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 243 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 244 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 245 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 246 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 247 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 248 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 249 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 250 value = 2 }
command = { type = vp value = -100 }

Je prendrais A Je ne prend pas le choix B qui met un province risk de 5 car avec ya une baisse de stab de 1 points. Or a 12.500 ducats le point de stab, c'est impossible

id = 3048
trigger = {
NOT = {
domestic = { type = innovative value = 10 }
}
NOT = { exists = USA }
event = 4980
}
random = no
country = ENG
name = "EVENTNAME3048"
desc = "EVENTHIST3048"
style = 4
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1770 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1771 }
action_a ={ #Abolish all Tolls, but the Tea Toll#
name = "ACTIONNAME3048A"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = 3 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = 3 }
command = { type = treasury value = -500 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = trigger which = 4981 }
}
action_b ={ #Keep all Tolls#
name = "ACTIONNAME3048B"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = 8 }
command = { type = vp value = 100 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = trigger which = 4981 }
}
action_c ={ #Abolish all Tolls#
name = "ACTIONNAME3048C"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = -7 }
command = { type = vp value = -100 }
command = { type = treasury value = -800 }
command = { type = stability value = -4 }

Choix B au maximum de puissance. Augmentation de +8

id = 3049
trigger = {
NOT = {
domestic = { type = innovative value = 10 }
}
NOT = { exists = USA }
event = 4981
}
random = no
country = ENG
name = "EVENTNAME3049"
desc = "EVENTHIST3049"
style = 4
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1773 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1774 }
action_a ={ #Revoke the Constitutional Freedom of the Colonies#
name = "ACTIONNAME3049A"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = 8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = 8 }
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -100 }
}
action_b ={ #Install British Administration and Judges#
name = "ACTIONNAME3049B"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = 16 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = 16 }
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 3 }
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -3 }
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 2 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -150 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
action_c ={ #Start Negotiations for Self-Determination#
name = "ACTIONNAME3049C"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = -15 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = -15 }
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -3 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 50 }
command = { type = stability value = -3 }

Choix A. Le B apporte vraiment trop de changement de curseur trop nefaste pour l'Angleterre.

Si les USA n'apparaissent pas ou s'ils apparaissent, la fin de la guerre se produit par event en 1785 + 1 à 1800 jours (soit 5 ans) avec une victoire pour un camps ou pour l'autre.



Voila avec ces choix d'event, ça produit 18% de taux de révolte. Je n'aurais rien contre plus encore mais apres ça induit soit de la perte de stab, soit des mouvements de curseurs vraiment nefaste...

Eventuellement au 1er event, je pourais prendre le choix B pour +3 revolte suplémentaire encore mais si changement immédiat de la save pour remettre la stab perdu. Vraiment à 12.500 ducats le points de stab..... ca coute trop cher

Vous en pensez quoi?

Dernière modification par Aedan ; 19/12/2006 à 13h47.
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C'est comme tu le sens du moment que les USA sont crées. Ensuite ce n'est pas + ou -5 de revolte qui vont changer les choses
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Euh je suis pas encore sur de pouvoir, prévoyez le cas où je ne puisse pas quand même.

Sinon pour gagner du temps je vais regarder la save maintenant. Euhhhh je trouve pas la save ?

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On serait très honoré de t'avoir à notre table mon cher.

Aedan pourrait être joué en IA ce soir mais c'est emmerdant pour les choix d'events. Je me demande si je peux les forcer par la suite ....
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